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I have always had a moonroof in my cars. Since the Clarity didn't offer it I went with a Webasto aftermarket model. This is my 3rd Webasto aftermarket moonroof. They assured ne the slight dip in the roo8was not a problem. I had the work done at Arizona Suntops in Phoenix. Has anyone else had one installed?
 

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Nope. The only aftermarket sunroof "experience" I've had are on friends' vehicles.

To paraphrase Marisa Tomei at the end of My Cousin Vinnie: "It was an effing nightmare!" of unsolvable leaks.

Not gonna happen. No way, nohow.
 

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We had a real gullywasher here yesterday. the moonroof performed as promised. No leaks and it is quiet. I am happy. The Webasto Hollandia 700 series moonroof does not actually seal to the roof of the car. It seals to itself. The black trim is more for appearance where the roof is cut. The unit mounts under the roofline and above the headliner. it has drainholes on each side of the unit that run down each pillar between front and back doors. I had the switch mounted on the sunglass holder to allow for the unit to be closer to the front. It is now sealed shut. Not a big deal since I use a visor sunglass holder anyway. This is the 3rd Webasto unit I have had and none has ever leaked.
 

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We had a real gullywasher here yesterday. the moonroof performed as promised. No leaks and it is quiet. I am happy. The Webasto Hollandia 700 series moonroof does not actually seal to the roof of the car. It seals to itself. The black trim is more for appearance where the roof is cut. The unit mounts under the roofline and above the headliner. it has drainholes on each side of the unit that run down each pillar between front and back doors. I had the switch mounted on the sunglass holder to allow for the unit to be closer to the front. It is now sealed shut. Not a big deal since I use a visor sunglass holder anyway. This is the 3rd Webasto unit I have had and none has ever leaked.
Thanks for that info. Now my tally is three successes (yours), and three failures (my friends and relatives). Aftermarket T-Tops were the worst.

It's like critics of skydiving exclaiming "Why jump out of a perfectly good plane?" (I have). My feeling is "Why cut up a perfectly good car roof?"

Your installation does look really clean.
 

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I have always had a moonroof in my cars. Since the Clarity didn't offer it I went with a Webasto aftermarket model. This is my 3rd Webasto aftermarket moonroof. They assured ne the slight dip in the roo8was not a problem. I had the work done at Arizona Suntops in Phoenix. Has anyone else had one installed?
Wow, I talked to two different shops that specialize in putting these in, and both of them told me that it can't be done on the Clarity due to the recess in the roof. There is also something (or was something) on the Honda website touting the special structure of the Clarity's roof and how rigid it is. That made me concerned that cutting into it might affect that.

That said, I really want a moonroof in my Clarity. Could you take some close-up photos of the area where the edge of the moonroof meets the recess in the roof (on the outside of the car). And a few that show how the roof looks on the interior? I am really very interested in this modification. I'm glad somebody was willing to have it done. It looks great in those photos.
 

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The roof is rigid. the roof skin is not. Her are some pictures. I hope they help. As said previously, I approved them putting the switch in the sunglass holder (now solidly shut). This allowed them to move the assembly forward a few inches. The unit is a Webasto Hollandia 700 with the auto close feature (closes the moonroof if it is open when shutting off the ignition). In vent position it does not auto close.
In watching several YouTube videos one of the most missed features of this car was the moonroof (mentioned in every video I watched).
 

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The roof is rigid. the roof skin is not. Her are some pictures. I hope they help. As said previously, I approved them putting the switch in the sunglass holder (now solidly shut). This allowed them to move the assembly forward a few inches. The unit is a Webasto Hollandia 700 with the auto close feature (closes the moonroof if it is open when shutting off the ignition). In vent position it does not auto close.
In watching several YouTube videos one of the most missed features of this car was the moonroof (mentioned in every video I watched).
Thank you for those photos! Your moonroof looks really good. That was a good call on moving the moonroof forward by sacrificing the sunglass holder. I never use that, anyway. I had a moonroof installed in a Nissan Maxima, and one of the few things I didn’t like about it was that it was a few inches too far back to be fully enjoyed.

I would really like to put one in my Clarity. One thing that still worries me is that if you look at the Clarity on the Honda website, they make a lot of the fact that the roof on the Clarity is specially engineered to be extra strong and rigid. They say it has a seamlessly laser-welded roof that greatly improves body strength and rigidity. I imagine they did that for a reason. I don't know if other Hondas have similar roofs, but I didn’t see any mention of it with the Accord.
 

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I'm in Southern California, so Arizona isn't too very far away. However, I'd hate to think I'd have to go back there if I had any problems. Do you mind saying what it cost? I'm guessing around $1,200 to $1,500?
Oh no. Pretty expensive. Mine was $2600. You can check locally. Years ago there was a company called Pacific Sunroofs in OC. That did a lot of aftermarket for the car dealerships. They may still be around.
 

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I could have saved $500 by not choosing to auto close feature.
I used a company called American Sunroof in San Diego to put the sunroof in my Maxima. I was really worried it would look horrible. It looked great, and it didn't leak. But they somehow screwed up the wiring (which should have been the easiest part). I went through three car batteries in the next six or so months. I took it somewhere else to get it diagnosed. That place told me the sunroof installer tapped into a wire instead of wiring it to the fuse box, and there was some other problem. American Sunroof denied responsibility. It got to be so much of a hassle that I just gave that car to a friend of mine and bought a new car. So there's that weighing on my decision, too. I'll look into that place in OC.
 

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The roof is rigid. the roof skin is not. Her are some pictures. I hope they help. As said previously, I approved them putting the switch in the sunglass holder (now solidly shut). This allowed them to move the assembly forward a few inches. The unit is a Webasto Hollandia 700 with the auto close feature (closes the moonroof if it is open when shutting off the ignition). In vent position it does not auto close.
In watching several YouTube videos one of the most missed features of this car was the moonroof (mentioned in every video I watched).
Man, that looks OEM.
 

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Follow up after 7 months: The moonroof is as weathertight as when installed. No leaks. the car has been subjected to desert summer heat, rain, snow and high wind. When pulling panels off while installing the blind spot monitor I noticed that the assembly has 4 drain holes (I assumed 2). I found 3/8" tubing running down the A-pillar and pillar between front and back doors on both sides. Unlike some aftermarket moonroofs, this one doesn't get the "whoop, whoop" sound/pulsing sound when fully opened at highway speeds. In fact, I can't feel any air flowing into the cabin unless I put my hand up through the open roof. Like so many things, the most important factor is the installer, not the unit itself.
 

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Follow up after 7 months: The moonroof is as weathertight as when installed. No leaks. the car has been subjected to desert summer heat, rain, snow and high wind. When pulling panels off while installing the blind spot monitor I noticed that the assembly has 4 drain holes (I assumed 2). I found 3/8" tubing running down the A-pillar and pillar between front and back doors on both sides. Unlike some aftermarket moonroofs, this one doesn't get the "whoop, whoop" sound/pulsing sound when fully opened at highway speeds. In fact, I can't feel any air flowing into the cabin unless I put my hand up through the open roof. Like so many things, the most important factor is the installer, not the unit itself.
I'm still thinking about going to Arizona and getting this done. I do have a few more questions, if you don't mind:

1. Why did allowing them to put the switch in the sunglass holder allow them to move the moonroof a few inches forward (toward the front of the car)?
2. How is the forward positioning of your moonroof? For me, that is critical. I want it to be as far forward as you would find it in factory installations because I want it to be in my peripheral vision and I want it to be easy to be able to look up when I want to look up.
3. One of my biggest concerns is still the fitment where the groove is on top of the roof. How does the seal/black stripping look along where the groove dips down after this much time?
4. Have you had any issues at all that required return trips to the installer or other issues?

Thank you!
 

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I suppose you could ask them to try to get the moonroof a little farther forward. If you don't put the switch in the sunglass holder you could try putting it in another place, maybe in the Flying bridge (console). That would allow you to keep the holder, but probably won't get the moonroof any farther forward.
I am completely satisfied with the whole installation. I think it is forward about the same as the moonroof on our CRV.
I wouldn't get the auto close feature again, though. I rarely open the it, preferring the tilt feature. When fully open it is quiet (no "whoop whoop" noise), however.
It hasn't leaked or been back to AZ Suntops since installation.
I am happy.
 

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I suppose you could ask them to try to get the moonroof a little farther forward. If you don't put the switch in the sunglass holder you could try putting it in another place, maybe in the Flying bridge (console). That would allow you to keep the holder, but probably won't get the moonroof any farther forward.
I am completely satisfied with the whole installation. I think it is forward about the same as the moonroof on our CRV.
I wouldn't get the auto close feature again, though. I rarely open the it, preferring the tilt feature. When fully open it is quiet (no "whoop whoop" noise), however.
It hasn't leaked or been back to AZ Suntops since installation.
I am happy.
Thank you for that info. Are you saying the auto close doesn't work with the tilt feature? Or that you just aren't as worried about closing it if it is just tilted open? Thanks
 

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Auto close is not anything I use at it turns out since I prefer tilt to vent instead of opened. It only works to close the sunroof when opened. It doesn't close when tilted.
 
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